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*Spoiler* Do you think Goten and Trunks deserve the Super Saiyan ability?
Topic Started: Jul 19 2014, 02:03 PM (1,663 Views)
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Jet
Jul 20 2014, 10:28 AM
Goten/Trunks transforming so early for seemingly no reason effectively made it a child's plaything, and it disgraced the achievements of those before them. Goku, Future Trunks, Gohan, Vegeta etc went through hell to transform, and they needed an extreme emotional reaction to the respective situations they were in at the time.

It also led to one of the worst things about the Z series in the Gotenks character. Take that away from the Buu Saga and you instantly have a much better viewing experience.
We don't know what Future Trunks went through he was a SSJ the first time we see him in the manga. Also SSJ3 Gotenks vs Super Buu was a great fight. Gohan ruined the Buu saga more then Gotenks.
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The Boo arc isn't to be taken in a serious way as are previous arcs.
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The-Senzu-Life
Jul 20 2014, 01:49 AM
Alex ClownBoss
Jul 20 2014, 12:56 AM
Why was this thread a spoiler again ?
The fact that Goten and Trunks became Super Saiyans. I did it just in case there is people on the forum that haven't watched all of Dragon Ball Z.
I think that's an extremely, extremely small minority. Just going by the anime, there are extremely few episodes between their appearance and transformation. This is also not including all the games and art of them.

Anyway, I still do not find the reason for the anger. Earlier, Vertical made a fantastic analogy about how it makes little sense for us to be outraged by a new generation's ease in development. The older generation already achieved super saiyan after all. If anything, there are two more questions to ask.
1— Why was Trunks stronger? If he was conceived when Vegeta had just transformed, whereas Goten was conceived when Goku attained FPSSJ, wouldn't that place them in two different leagues of power?
2— Whatever happened to the "legendary (small L) Super Saiyan?" It began losing its mystique as soon as Trunks came back in time and showed off his SSJ powers. In other words, as cheap as it was by the time of the Boo saga, it was already cheapening well before that. The fact there's even a way for any saiyan to attain it, even through hard work, makes it less special. Would have been cooler if Goku was simply "the legend."

Other than that, yeah. It's New Powers As The Plot Demands.
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Think of it as how a Saiyan's entire outfit can change if they go Super Saiyan.

So....His shoes are Super Saiyan 4?

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Did y'all forget the badass Future Trunks is JUST like present Trunks besides the Cyborgs. Meaning Trunks had SSJ at a young age too. The manga backs me up as Trunks was already a SSJ in the future.
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